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\"Barbara_POST_THUMBNAIL\"“Look, hummingbird!”<\/em>, says Barbara, directing our attention to the branches above. And there it is, feathers like emerald sparks, darting from flower to flower. Hummingbirds are the smallest of all birds but one shouldn’t be fooled by their modest\u00a0size, they\u00a0pack unbelievable energy and can reach top flight speeds of almost\u00a0100 km\/h. Their wings move in a figure-8 pattern that allows them to hover and puts them in a class all their own, for they can also fly\u00a0sideways, backwards and even upside down!<\/p>\n

These winged jewels always make challenging photographic subjects and the\u00a0White-bellied Emerald\u00a0we’re looking at is no exception. Fast as lightning, done with one flower and on to the next, the hummingbird\u00a0follows\u00a0a precise route mapped in three dimensions and computed, somehow, within its tiny brain. My eyes track the bird’s\u00a0movements\u00a0as I take side steps, trying to find\u00a0a better “window” through the foliage. Finally I do and start shooting.<\/p>\n

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Leaves and branches made\u00a0the camera’s auto-focus useless while trying to\u00a0photograph this\u00a0White-bellied Emerald (Amazilia candida). (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

Moments later, sure enough, the bird flies off to some distant tree and I’m left in the dust to do a quick review\u00a0of the\u00a0images on the camera’s LCD. One frame gets my immediate attention: frozen in flight with its bill wide open, the hummingbird can be seen in hot pursuit of an airborne insect. It’s known that hummingbirds complement their diet of nectar with insects, but I had never photographed this behavior before, so I’m thrilled. Besides, this is not just any birding trip: today we’re out on private land near Dzilam de Bravo with Barbara MacKinnon, a bona-fide<\/em> expert on the birds of the Yucatan Peninsula. As we all return to the vehicle I show the image to Barbara. “Ah\u00e1!”<\/em> she says, “goes to show they eat insects too!”<\/em>.<\/p>\n

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A White-bellied Emerald (Amazilia candida) in so-called “hawking” mode. David Sibley writes: “When prey is spotted, the perched hummingbird sallies out and engulfs the unsuspecting insect”. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

Ever since I first started RIDE INTO BIRDLAND<\/strong>, back in 2011, I’d wanted to interview Barbara MacKinnon. References to her work kept popping up whenever I queried\u00a0Google about\u00a0“birding in the Yucatan Peninsula”<\/em>. Most useful to me among those early references was a\u00a0link to Barbara’s list of species\u00a0and an article written by her on the birds of Yucatan<\/span>, valuable\u00a0information without which I couldn’t have begun to make sense of the birds I was photographing. (The website that hosted those files no longer exists, but Barbara has a new site in the making, so these resources could be available again<\/em>).<\/p>\n

No time\u00a0could be better to finally sit down with Barbara MacKinnon<\/span>\u00a0than now, closing what has been a year of accomplishments for her. Ink is still fresh on the first edition of Sal a Pajarear Yucat\u00e1n<\/em>, a field guide bearing her signature that is quickly making its way into the pockets of birders all over the peninsula. Written for children but quickly embraced by people of all ages, this field guide in Spanish covers 408 bird species and is part of a beautiful project to bring birding culture \u2013and possibly birding economics\u2013 to Mexican children and their communities.<\/p>\n

The book has been cause for much celebration, placing the spotlight on its author and opening the gates to a wave of public recognition for Barbara’s work of many years. It’s been a collective realization of sorts, a common agreement upon\u00a0a single fact: there would be no birding culture in the Yucatan Peninsula, as we know it today, without the work of Barbara MacKinnon.<\/p>\n

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Barbara\u2019s book \u201cSal a pajarear Yucat\u00e1n\u201d was published as a joint effort with Claudia Madrazo, owner of publishing house \u201cLa vaca independiente\u201d and creator of \u201cTransformaci\u00f3n Arte y Cultura\u201d, a foundation that supports the \u201cSal a Pajarear\u201d project in the Yucatan Peninsula. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

Barbara’s journey in connection with birds started with a captive parakeet and ended up taking her into the realms of ecological awareness and socially meaningful\u00a0work. She made it her\u00a0self-appointed mission to create birding culture in the Yucatan Peninsula, working to implement\u00a0programs that aim\u00a0to empower members of rural communities by\u00a0training them as bird guides, thus\u00a0qualifying\u00a0them to provide potentially profitable services to\u00a0the eco-tourism market and\u00a0creating conservation ethics in the process.<\/p>\n

The success of these efforts can be witnessed today when one talks to\u00a0qualified bird guides in the\u00a0peninsula, among them former fishermen\u00a0and farmers who discovered birding as an alternative life path and regard Barbara\u00a0as teacher and mentor. For many of them meeting Barbara MacKinnon and learning about birds was\u00a0a life changing experience, and several are now in turn teaching\u00a0younger generations of guides.<\/span><\/p>\n

A\u00a0few days before our field outing Barbara welcomed us into her Merida home for an interview.\u00a0Our conversation took place\u00a0in her studio, where she generously accepted all our questions. Her<\/span>\u00a0replies were often punctuated with laughter, her smart, fiery eyes shining with\u00a0enthusiasm for birds and life.<\/p>\n

Today RIDE INTO BIRDLAND<\/strong> is honored\u00a0to give you Barbara MacKinnon, true pioneer and creator of birding culture in the Yucatan Peninsula.<\/p>\n

\"Barbara<\/a>

Barbara MacKinnon in her Merida home. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

I.G. Hello, Barbara. Allow me to start at the beginning. How did you become interested in birds in general, and particularly in the birds of the Yucatan Peninsula?<\/strong><\/p>\n

B.M. I met my husband on the beach in Puerto Vallarta, we were married there and lived for almost a year in a fishing village called Yelapa, the last bay in Bahia de Banderas on the west coast of Jalisco. No electricity, 250 people, we had the only house with indoor plumbing. My husband was managing a little ecological hotel on the water and we had a speed-boat. I\u2019d go out with tourists at the hotel to this village up in the mountains, a 4 hour horse or donkey trip up 3,000 feet, very steep, completely different climate. One day we stopped at a house for water, and some children were feeding these little parakeets with no feathers. I ended up buying them for 50 pesos and carrying them down on the horse.<\/p>\n

Two years later I was in Mexico City and my favorite one died. I was devastated, I didn\u2019t speak a word of Spanish, the culture was completely new, I\u2019d never been married before\u2026 the whole experience was tremendous. These were my friends and I could teach them English. So my mother started sending me bird books and just before we left Mexico City for Sonora she sent the first black-and-white bird guide by Emmet Reid\u00a0Blake, whom I met as \u201cBob\u201d years later at The Field Museum<\/a>, he was curator of birds there, fantastic person. So we got to Sonora and stayed there for about six months, there was a large community of Americans with trailers. One of them was going back to the States and I asked him to buy me a pair of binoculars, so I did start going out to look for birds for a month or two in Sonora, in the desert.<\/p>\n

My husband was from Yucatan so we came to live here and I wanted to learn more about birds. There were two things that happened: first, a cousin in Mexico City who was my mentor \u2013 a researcher in UNAM in aesthetics and archaeology\u2013 said there must be a course on birds, a correspondence course, because by then we\u2019d ended up living in the southern end of Isla Mujeres. So in 1975 I took Cornell University\u2019s course, which they had developed in \u201970 or \u201971. By that time the first Peterson book on Mexico came out with the color plates, before that it was black-and-white but with very good descriptions. And so that\u2019s where I got into it.<\/p>\n

There were very few hotels in Cancun at that time. My husband had a boating business and was offering the services to one of the hotels, when they said they really would like to develop some tours. I wrote my mother to contact a friend of hers, who happened to be on the board of National Audubon, saying that if there\u2019s any birders coming this way I would be the local guide, set it up, rent the rooms in the hotel and all this.<\/p>\n

Then I got a letter from a man, he was an outside consultant to National Audubon who helped organize their tours, saying I was highly recommended \u2013only because of people knowing each other\u2013 and he sent me the itinerary from the year before of this horrible tour they took. They were on the bus all the time in central Mexico, it was nothing to enjoy, just reading it was horrible! So he wrote \u201cthis didn\u2019t work out<\/em>\u201d, and asked me if I could send him an itinerary. I turned to my husband and said, \u201cWhat am I going to do, I\u2019ve never been on a tour in my life?<\/em>\u201d. And he said, \u201cThey don\u2019t know that<\/em>\u201d. So I did a two-week itinerary for 25 people for the Yucatan Peninsula and Palenque, Maya culture and its birds. It worked beautifully for three years without a change, that\u2019s when I really learned birds. But it all started with this parakeet that died.<\/p>\n

With a captive bird.<\/strong><\/p>\n

A captive bird, yeah. But it wasn\u2019t that captive, we had to keep the windows rolled up, so it was free in the apartment we had in Cancun to fly around some.<\/p>\n

That\u00a0Cornell University correspondence course you took, how significant was that experience? Was it really useful? Would you recommend it?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It was fantastic! I would get each chapter and in one day I was re-mailing it with the answers. I\u2019d read it all and sent it back, and then I had to wait one month, it took two weeks to get there and two weeks to get the next part. Pretty much what happens today! (Laughs<\/em>). Later they came out with this very difficult one, but now they\u2019re re-doing it again. And they\u2019re still using me as promotion for their donations, to show what happens to someone who takes their course!<\/p>\n

You did a lot of birding in the Cancun area, which was not as we know it today.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, it was forest, it was beautiful.<\/p>\n

IHow did witnessing such a terrible transformation make you feel? And how do you see the ongoing struggle between conservation and development here in the Yucatan Peninsula?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Man and nature! It got to the point where I felt I knew what it was like to have been a woman in the gold-rush states, in California. The dust was flying, you know. Then it would settle and things would get green for a while, until the dust would go again, the heavy machinery. I have a lot of slides that I took and labeled \u201cCancun ugly\u201d, because that\u2019s how it was to me, that change. Eventually I had to move out. In the island of Cancun \u2013which nobody recognizes as an island\u2013 from where the Sheraton was, after the first stage of development I had a permit to go into the rest of the island, there was only Don Herlindo there, caretaker at the ruins, and a couple of coconut grove workmen. That\u2019s where I did all my birding, five days a week. I\u2019d also get up at 2:30 in the morning and drive to Cob\u00e1, because I had to get there before dawn, and if I stayed on the road before between Tulum and Coba it was incredible, the forest was really high, and the birds! You\u2019d see flocks of 78 parrots down on the ground eating fallen fruit. I had to go back many times!<\/p>\n

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Isla Contoy, off the Quintana Roo coast. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon – Aerial support by Lighthawk.org for Pronatura Peninsula de Yucat\u00e1n).<\/p><\/div>\n

Now, about the conflict, this is ongoing and will continue, this sharing of natural resources between man and nature. The more we\u2019re killing them, the less that goes into nature\u2019s system. Take for instance Isla Contoy, one of my favorite places, we used to go in the 70s before they put the visitors center. There the fishermen rely on the sardines and other small fish precisely in the spring, when the majority of the marine birds are nesting there, so it\u2019s a competition. We have the regulations on the non-fishing periods and all of this, so that species can reproduce for the benefit of men as well, but this hoarding of the resources, not respecting the dates to allow species to recover with reproduction\u2026 it so happens that man does not make a decision what to do, or even to do something, until after the fact, that\u2019s the saddest thing.<\/p>\n

Serious conservationists are not just activists, they\u2019re visionaries in the extent that they can see ahead what\u2019s coming, what\u2019s going to happen. You try and give a warning, it\u2019s not like Doomsday!<\/em>, but you try to give a warning to take action. They\u2019ll accuse you of being an activist and making a big fuss, until there\u2019s a depletion completely of a species that\u2019s of economic value to the human being. We\u2019re self-destructive.<\/p>\n

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Men on motorcycles carry trap-cages\u00a0during an\u00a0early morning raid to capture Northern Cardinals and other in-demand birds. Many of these birds die before even reaching their intended market.\u00a0This pervasive practice remains unchecked in The Yucatan Peninsula and\u00a0is seriously affecting bird populations. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabaldon)<\/p><\/div>\n

ILet\u2019s talk about your new book, \u201cSal a Pajarear Yucat\u00e1n\u201d. Please tell us about the work that went into this project and the type of reader it\u2019s meant for.<\/strong><\/p>\n

The book in itself was something that I realized in training bird-guides that was very necessary. For years one of the objectives that I\u2019ve had with different conservation programs has been to create a bird culture. It does not exist in Mexico. The culture that exists is capturing birds out of curiosity or killing them for food, this is very ancient. The thing is, if you don\u2019t have the tool in the language of the people, it\u2019s very difficult to make much progress. I wanted to do the bird book after years of this frustration of not having one book in the local language.<\/p>\n

I learned that there was no interest by an editorial company to invest in a regional bird guide, so the money would have to come from a donor who was already into three years of a project that I had helped her with in Jalisco, in which they were teaching children about birds in educational form in ten communities around an exclusive resort. These are very poor areas and they did it based on training volunteers, no one gets paid, it could be a teacher, or a biologist. She wanted to do the same thing here, so when I suggested the book she was very happy because it would be the tool to do this other conservation project in the peninsula, similar to what they did in a very small area in Jalisco, something a little bit more difficult logistically to do because we\u2019ve included the three states.<\/p>\n

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Barbara scans the trees for birds during our outing together. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

The book also was an opportunity for me to put in a lot of information that is not published anywhere. All the nesting data that I collected in the late 70s, when I was birding every single day and I was only doing some tours living in Cancun, helped me tremendously to be able to put dates on nesting. Steve Howell in his fantastic book on the birds of Mexico also has some dates, but not a whole lot. There\u2019s very little published on nesting dates in the Pet\u00e9n of Guatemala, and the only place where they really have a lot is Costa Rica in their guidebook, but that\u2019s a different time period with the dry season and the wet season, which dictates a lot of when a bird will nest. So most of that information in my book has never been published before.<\/p>\n

Steve Howell did include quite a bit of general information of when certain species visit in the wintertime in the peninsula, coming through but not specific to the peninsula. For a number of years in the late 70s I kept track of migration data \u2013first seen, most seen, next to last seen, last seen\u2013 for Doctor Alan Phillips, who was the authority of birds in Mexico. I had all of that data and can tell you pretty much within a six week period of when a transient bird will come through here. So I included that data and where I did not have data or it was incomplete, I either leave it out or there\u2019s a question mark, and I hope someone will tell me what the correct information is. I\u2019ve invited people to share their information, but until you get everything out there no one is going to say anything to you, everyone will keep their information in a drawer because they have nowhere to comment on it. So I\u2019m hoping that everyone will key into those two, the dating of nesting and of the presence in the peninsula for migrant birds.<\/p>\n

For the maps that I included in the \u201c200 birds of the Yucatan Penisula\u201d<\/em>, a\u00a0two-CD interactive ROM we did, I obtained the use of maps for the entire distribution of birds and was able to update about 30 of those. That was a bit complicated, because we have species here in the peninsula that are residents and are also migratory, so of course if you\u2019re doing it from the perspective of a North American north of Mexico, the migrants for there will have a blue color, not a green color for a resident, and you can\u2019t put both colors in one map. With the information that I get from other projects that I work on as a volunteer, like doing four reports a year for North American Birds or reviewing the E-bird for the area, I have access to a lot of information. I was able to update about 160 maps that Steve had done, he didn\u2019t have the information at the time, there just wasn\u2019t that much done. More people out in the field, more information, if they\u2019re reporting it. That\u2019s the most difficult chore, getting people to report what they\u2019re seeing, but it\u2019s part of the process.<\/p>\n

I decided it was more important to do distribution maps only for the peninsula for a couple of reasons: one, people are coming to the peninsula or they live here, and they want to see their birds or the birds that are here, or they would have gone elsewhere to see them. So with the book they can see easily what part of the peninsula they have to be at in order to have a chance at finding those species. This also gives an opportunity to increase tourism in an area that I just love, the base of the peninsula which has some beautiful forests, still untouched, still in the hands of the campesino<\/em>, it gives more value to that part of the peninsula and so many species that we have in the peninsula are related to Central America. Hopefully conservation-minded birdwatchers will go and leave an income to those people so that they will continue to save their forests, they\u2019re basically forest ejidos<\/em> but they manage forest and are interested in eco-tourism.<\/p>\n

\"Barbara<\/a>

During\u00a0the book’s presentation at\u00a0Museo Casa Montejo in M\u00e9rida (Casa Cultura Banamex), Barbara listens attentively as children talk about their experiences with the “Sal a Pajarear” project. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

It\u2019s interesting to hear about all this new data in the book, specially since it\u2019s a very accessible book for \u201cbeginners\u201d. What kind of reader did you have in mind?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Well, I had to write for children of 9 to 11 years. I also had to defend why I was putting some species in. I knew I wasn\u2019t going to do another book, this was an opportunity to put all of my knowledge into one book, there was a lot of discussion on this. I looked around, there\u2019s a lot of books, in English or Spanish but not well done, they all have 120, maybe 160 species. A child is going to learn the basic 120 birds, going out at least twice a month, in a year. So what are they going to use after that? I\u2019m thinking also of my bird guides, they\u2019ve learned the English names but hardly ever know the Spanish names, there\u2019s so much information they don\u2019t have because they don\u2019t read and they don\u2019t read in English. I wanted them to be able to benefit from this as well. And I wanted to keep the language simple throughout, I\u2019m not a technician or a biologist.<\/p>\n

I had some help revising the first section from someone who works in environmental education with children, who changed a few words around, softened it, and it fit fine. Then Dr. Hector G\u00f3mez de Selva, one of the top ornithologists in Mexico, did the first revision of the text, I wanted someone who knew the subject matter, not just the grammar. He changed a few words, for instance I would use selva secundaria<\/em> in Spanish, secondary forest, he changed it to rejuvenated forest, words that a child would better understand. So everyone was astute as to what the objective was, it had to be easy to read. What I did not expect was that adults would think it\u2019s fantastic precisely because it was written for children and everybody can understand it. I thought they\u2019d skip over, just read the instructions so they\u2019d understand the book and go to the species, but they\u2019re reading all of it.<\/p>\n

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Black-and-white Warbler (Mniotilta varia) are winter residents in the Yucatan\u00a0Peninsula. In her field guide, Barbara writes about this bird’s hunting technique: “Instead of jumping from branch to branch among the leaves, it climbs up trunks and branches. To enable it to move like this, the back-pointing finger in\u00a0each foot is extra long”. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

You used photographs instead of drawings, which is the more traditional choice for field guides. Why did you make this decision and how did you select photographs for the book?<\/strong><\/p>\n

B.M. First of all, to do drawings you\u2019re automatically putting a two-year date out there. I have worked with artists that don\u2019t know birds, and I know birds but at that point on my life I didn\u2019t know enough to say no. It\u2019s very frustrating, it doesn\u2019t come out just right, the detail, the measurements. The best bird artists are birders, but I was always working with someone who could copy whatever, and it just would never work out. There was also a time element and photographs exist, it\u2019s a matter of having access to them when you don\u2019t have a budget. If you have a budget there\u2019s absolutely no problem, you can put a book together almost overnight. So there was no consideration whatsoever not to use photography. I was lucky to have a total of 19 contributors, sometimes with one or two photos but photos that were very difficult to get. The two main principal photographers, Alexander Dzib and Alejandro Pacheco, both sent me about 600 to 700 photos, which finally got pared down to about 170 for one and 130 for the other.<\/p>\n

When your objective is to teach someone to identify a bird, it has to be photographed at a certain angle, it has to show the primary identification points. You\u2019re not going be able to identify a bird if you\u2019re looking at the bill straight on, you won\u2019t see the superciliary line, the line through the eye if there is one, whether it has an eye-ring or not, whether it has bars on the wings, what the shape of the tail is. So a three-quarters is good, but it depends on what the bird is and what the points of identification are, specially if there\u2019s another one similar, you have got to show those differences. I didn\u2019t succeed 100 percent, because I didn\u2019t have all the photos in the world, but that was my basis of selection, not on beauty whatsoever.<\/p>\n

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It was just starting to drizzle near the end of our outing with Barbara when this Yellow-rumped Warbler (Setophaga coronata) showed up. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

You\u2019ve dedicated years of field work to the compilation of a list of species for the Yucatan Peninsula, the latest version of which is included in your new book. This list is always being updated, birds are added, deleted, or observed outside their known range. What does such constant change tells us about birds in general and about the Yucatan Peninsula in particular?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The Yucatan Peninsula is a finger sticking out between two very distinct seas. Birds have wings, there are winds, so anything can show up, and we have had almost anything show up. Birds that normally won\u2019t go pass Tamaulipas, a strong northern wind will carry them down, birds get lost. So we can add species. Many times you don\u2019t know, because not everyone is reporting what they\u2019re seeing or know what they\u2019re looking at to report it, whether it’s\u00a0the first, the second, or the fifth time it\u2019s been here, or how often it gets here. I saw some species in Isla Canc\u00fan that no one else has seen on the peninsula, and we shouldn\u2019t expect them either, but they can show up.<\/p>\n

There are also changes in numbers coming. Take the Lesser Black-backed Gull, for example. Gulls have a tendency to expand if your garbage dumps are expanding, they\u2019re scavengers. It used to be you\u2019d see three in one area on the coast and now you can see a lot in maybe ten different areas along the coast. Herring Gulls, you\u2019d always see a few off the Progreso pier, one or two maybe on the Quintana Roo coast, but we had a flock of 35 in the water in Las Coloradas a few years ago, so that shows a population increase. Ducks is another thing, it\u2019s occurred with climate change, with the amount of water or the temperatures off the northeast coast. The Atlantic coast got warmer a couple of years ago, so the ducks came down south from Georgia to our area on the Gulf and found more food. I did a bibliography of the ornithology of the Yucatan Peninsula back in \u201993, and I found a lot of old records of Red-heads in it, but all of a sudden we got a couple of thousand of them in Celestun and they haven\u2019t been reported for 20 or 30 years, so that\u2019s a change.<\/p>\n

Birds will go where there\u2019s food. If you find a lot of birds in one place it doesn\u2019t necessarily mean it\u2019s a good thing. It means something may be happening someplace else that\u2019s causing them to move to your area. Like the Razor-bills two winters ago in Florida, a North Atlantic bird but there are pictures on the internet of these birds flying past palm trees. They kept going until they found food, and fortunately they found food in Florida because they would have ended up in the Caribbean and starved to death. They had never been seen there before and it doesn\u2019t mean they\u2019re going to stay there, it\u2019s just that season, those circumstances. If you get climatic change that is repeated with water temperature changes, which will also affect food sources and it\u2019s continual every winter, then you\u2019re going to have these phenomena repeating themselves.<\/p>\n

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The Lesser Black-backed Gull (Larus fuscus) has become in recent years a much more frequent sight in the Yucatan Peninsula. Photographed in the Sian Ka’an Biosphere Reserve, Quintana Roo. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

It seems the human mind would like to put things neatly into boxes, but nature is always changing and adapting. Have you seen a lot of change since you\u2019ve been birding here?<\/strong><\/p>\n

It\u2019s hard to say. I\u2019ve seen a lot of changes of habitat, and habitat is going to change bird species. The thing is, when I was starting out in the mid to late 70s in Quintana Roo no one else was looking at birds in all of Quintana Roo, so you can\u2019t compare. There were only three scientific expeditions since the 1930s to Quintana Roo. In relation to changes of the bird names each year, I thank Steve Howell for sending me an article he and others published a couple of years ago, recommending how to order the birds because of the taxonomic changes each year, families change position and then within the families, like birds that are no longer tanagers, they\u2019re grosbeaks.<\/p>\n

All thanks to DNA testing.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Right, and that is only to increase. So the recommendation is you put the families in order of similarities. What they have not yet done is to order the species within the families in the same order. They still have to do that, everyone has to agree and we\u2019re talking about the birds in all of the Americas. What I did was to put in the families in the order they suggested, then use the taxonomic order that everyone\u2019s been using but with the latest updates. So when you look at the book\u2019s content, this is how people can look at the similarities of species. A lot of people have attempted this, not exactly like this but there\u2019s a tendency, hopefully many more books will adopt the same. Because you pick up a book and you feel like an idiot, any book you pick up is not going to be in the same order as the other one, it depends on what year it was published and all that. This approach makes it easier for everyone, even scientists who want to show something or find it.<\/p>\n

\"Although<\/a>

Although its name has not yet been changed, DNA testing has resulted in the Scarlet Tanager (Piranga olivacea)\u00a0 being moved from the Tanager family (Thraupidae) into the Cardinal family (Cardinalidae). (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

How does it feel to spot a new bird and add it to the list? Can you tell us the story behind one of those additions that you\u2019ve done?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I don\u2019t recall that big a thrill\u2026 perhaps it would have more thrilling today, after years of looking now all of a sudden there\u2019s a brand new bird! Friends of mine have found new birds recently, in the garbage dump outside of the town of Oxkutzcab\u00a0and then at the Progreso ex-garbage dump, they had two birds never registered. One of those birds I had on a hypothetical list, but he took videos and Steve Howell identified them, Song Sparrow and Western Flycatcher. Who knows if they were here before, I remember years ago seeing a bird with a big spot on its breast, I was sure it was a Song Sparrow but it wasn\u2019t supposed to be here and I didn\u2019t know enough to go about proving it.<\/p>\n

I also had a chance to do some traveling and once in a volcano in Hawaii I knew that I was looking at a bird, its bill curved around, that for sure was going to be extinct in a couple of decades. It made me think. But then it became more important to me to find a migrant warbler a week earlier on the peninsula than I had found before, and that\u2019s when I knew that I wanted to focus in a specific area that I know, it was just much more interesting intellectually than to gratify a list. Then I lost the list I was keeping! I was with Steve Howell and Sophie, we stopped, he went to check a nest, my book got left on the top of the van on the road to Vigia Chico, in Carrillo Puerto. I had all of my notes and dates of what I had seen. Ever since then I\u2019ve never kept a list, it just wasn\u2019t important.<\/p>\n

I have a clipping here about your report of a Spotted Rail, a first for the peninsula.<\/strong><\/p>\n

Yes, but actually after we published this someone came out, they had seen it in the same location but no one saw their publication before. As it turns out the Spotted Rail is very local, it\u2019s still nesting in Cob\u00e1, some years you see it, some you don\u2019t. Since then I\u2019ve had other reports, probably migrants, under a car in Carrillo Puerto, things like that. I also had a wheatear, which was the second report for the peninsula, wheatears come from the European Artic area so that was even more surprising. A medical doctor on vacation, a client of mine, found it on a golf course in Cancun and said “you<\/em>\u00a0gotta see this<\/em>“. Other friends of mine, an English couple who lived in Ticul, had found one ten years earlier. These are birds coming from the Arctic.<\/p>\n

Accidentals.<\/strong><\/p>\n

They got wings, there are winds. They can show up. I found an American Woodcock (Scolopax minor<\/em>) in Cancun, it had never been recorded as far south in Mexico, there\u2019s about 3 or 4 records for all of Mexico.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>

The stunning Ocellated Turkey (Meleagris ocellata), endemic to the Yucatan Peninsula. This specimen was photographed in the Calakmul archaeological zone, Campeche. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

I have a copy of a book you published in 2005, the bilingual \u201cBirds & Reserves of the Yucatan Peninsula<\/em>\u201d. I really like it, it\u2019s like a road map of the Peninsula\u2019s best nature reserves, it can be used to make a travel plan. Would these be the basis for birding routes in the Yucatan Peninsula?<\/strong><\/p>\n

That\u2019s it, yes. That\u2019s a long story. For years, when I was coordinating the bird festival, I\u2019d met Ted Eubanks, he\u2019s done the birding trails in the U.S. and all over. Fermata Inc.<\/a> is his company.<\/p>\n

Birding trails or routes are used to promote birding in local areas, right?<\/strong><\/p>\n

And bring tourism to communities, spread it out away from cities, make use of the local hotels, restaurants, etc. So I got him to come down from Texas, paid for his trip with conservation money. We did a presentation for the Secretary of Tourism at the time, she didn\u2019t understand that, said yes but it was a no. Anyway, in the booklets that I did for the Toh Bird Festival I wrote what I would put down as circuits in the different areas they could go, to cover different areas for different birds, out of my own experience. But we pushed on this for years, trying to get these birding trails going.<\/p>\n

It\u2019s the only project I haven\u2019t accomplished, but what I\u2019m going to do with my next project, which has already been approved, is to create a web page for birds of the Yucatan Peninsula and one of the sections will be the routes. You put it on a web site, add a couple of pictures of what\u2019s there, information about available services, the bird list. I mean, it can be done, the Caribbean group is doing it already and they\u2019re working with Ted. So islands can do it, that\u2019s nothing easy logistically, and I have the dream of doing it on the peninsula, specially in the coastal area because it\u2019s really under threat.<\/p>\n

\"A<\/a>

A narrow inner road flanked by vegetation, near Dzilam de Bravo. Opportunities for spotting birds are plentiful! (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

Speaking of threats to the coastal areas, I know you\u2019re one of several people who have objected to the project for a wind farm in Dzilam de Bravo. Isn\u2019t wind power an ecological solution to energy needs?<\/strong><\/p>\n

We are not against it, we advised them to move it back from the coast, because of the endemics in the coastal area and the migration of birds. They didn\u2019t do any studies, they just did not do the hydrology, etc. And we know there\u2019s a whole line of international companies that want to come in and put them up. Recently it was announced that the State Government, SEDUMA and the Secretary of Environment, have changed the rules for the coastal reserve. So the area where they want to put in \u2013and probably will put in\u2013 the wind farm was an area designated for conservation, not general industry. So they\u2019ve changed a lot, it affects the entire coast wherever there\u2019s a project, whether it\u2019s tourism or a building that\u2019s going to go up above the level that\u2019s been permitted. It’s the same situation behind Progreso, Telchac, etc., just so that wind farms can go in.<\/p>\n

We\u2019re coming out, all of the researchers who originally wrote the program and have not been consulted, which by law we should have been consulted. It\u2019s a legal point of how they went about making this change. We will publish it and hopefully we\u2019ll have the names of doctors, researchers, serious people, although they still call us all \u201cecologistas<\/em>\u201d. SEDUMA did send an invitation to one of our group to be part of the State Committee on wind farms but we\u2019re also convoking a meeting \u2013the government hasn\u2019t answered us\u2013 about having a public hearing, where the company explains a lot of the doubts, because the study was so badly done, and where scientists have the opportunity to talk and give their position so that the public knows.<\/p>\n

Is it the biggest fear, from the point of view of birds, that this wind-farm would be right in the migratory route?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Migratory route is one thing, and the other are the endemic species. I\u2019ve spent a couple of days communicating with a consultant in Texas, and he says, “Why can\u2019t they just develop or rejuvenate an area for these endemics?<\/em>” Well, because of the soil situation, it\u2019s not even soil, it\u2019s rock. They only go 5 kilometers inland, that\u2019s where you have all your cactus and a lot of endemic species, plants as well as reptiles, in that particular zone. So you can\u2019t reproduce that. And your water level is surface to three meters, and then you have a deeper one, but the surface one\u2026 Interrupting that with the bases for the towers, they did not indicate what the maximum depth would be, only the minimum of 1.5 mts, and they could go 4 meters. Would that interrupt the salinity in the coastal lagoon system, which will affect the feeding of the Flamingoes? They didn\u2019t do any studies.<\/p>\n

And for all practical purposes, moving the wind farm inland\u2026<\/strong><\/p>\n

It would help, yes, because it wouldn\u2019t be on that area, so you would protect your endemics and migratory birds would have a chance coming in. But not if it\u2019s a whole wall of towers, because unfortunately we don\u2019t have mountains so birds don\u2019t come in in one specific area. I have them documented coming in from the west coast all the way down to Banco Chinchorro, first arrivals, they\u2019ll come into the coastal area at any point when they\u2019re exhausted. As an example we should look at, there\u2019s a complete catastrophe, economically, socially and ecologically, taking place in the Istmo de Tehuantepec, it\u2019s horrible and it\u2019s even affecting the fish populations.<\/p>\n

I translated an article into Spanish about a new study in the U.S. demonstrating, with scientific information that they had available, that the higher the tower, the higher the mortality. Companies protect themselves with an exclusivity clause and don\u2019t have to send out their information to anyone, but that\u2019s been proven. And they\u2019re just now, after years, seeing the negative impact. They\u2019re putting in the high towers here, really, it\u2019s critical. People don\u2019t think, where do your trees come from, you know? It\u2019s life!<\/p>\n

\"A<\/a>

A female Mexican Shear-tail (Doricha eliza), an endemic species whose survival depends on the preservation of habitat in the coastal areas of the Yucatan Peninsula (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

Something very positive that you\u2019ve done has been training and educating bird guides. You\u2019ve developed a methodology and wrote a manual, available on the internet<\/a>, that focuses on young guides from local communities. What can you tell us about this?<\/strong><\/p>\n

I didn\u2019t have a methodology, I have a lot of common sense. I wrote the manual after I had learned so much, and this is something that I need to share. And as it turned out, no one else in the world has written one, because they\u2019ve asked me from Russia and they\u2019re using it, and China and Kenya and South America. And it\u2019s just because no one else had done it. They all have eco-tourism projects and they can adapt it to whatever their needs are.<\/p>\n

I learned so much working with the communities. Overall they were adults, and I had numerous participants that had never passed 6th grade, and some couldn\u2019t read or write, and they would bring their young son from grade school to take notes and to read for them and all of that, and they became very good birders. Most were fishermen, I focused in the communities within the reserves in Yucatan and Quintana Roo because they were already developing eco-tourism. I never went where eco-tourism was not identified as a need for them, I don\u2019t believe in that because you\u2019re raising the expectations of the community but it won\u2019t be ongoing and you can\u2019t promote it, the government has to promote it or someone who has an economic interest. So to me it was something I would only do where it was conceivable and where there was tourism development and promotion.<\/p>\n

\"Cover<\/a>

Barbara’s manual for developing and training\u00a0 bird guides, published by Amigos de Sian Ka’an, has been used in the Yucatan Peninsula and also in places as diverse as China, Kenya, South America and Russia.<\/p><\/div>\n

What have been some of the challenges of this project? Some young guides I\u2019ve spoken with have told me it was hard for them be accepted by their community once they became bird guides, but people turned around when they realized a good living could be made from this activity?<\/strong><\/p>\n

For me it got to the point when I was in maybe five communities at the same time, I could pretty much predict what would happen in the organization as to the number of cooperatives that would be, the competition, all of this. But also there was another thing that happened: I had to go back to all the communities because once key people who really learned \u2013because not everybody learned but in any case you\u2019re creating conservation ethics\u2013 but those who really learned, their egos just went up and I had to go back and pull them down again. So they became disliked in their villages because they showed off, they\u2019ll never tell you that, they\u2019ll say \u201cI was treated like this<\/em>\u201d. They couldn\u2019t help but be proud of what they had done and there were some that thought they knew it all, so you had to go back and put them into real life.<\/p>\n

Amigos de Sian Ka\u2019an<\/a> with Pronatura<\/a> and RARE<\/a> organized three month training of naturalist guides, RARE had done this in Costa Rica with great success, then they went to Baja and then they came to the Yucatan Peninsula. I was president of Amigos at the time, we organized it, it cost 3,000 dollars that we had to raise for each participant. We selected people, interviewed, all English. But these guys, when they went back to their villages, they were the ones whose egos went up\u2026 In the last 3-month training there were a couple of volunteers, English teachers who were birders, and so these guides really learned birds form them, they went out every single morning. I used those guides that had been trained as naturalist guides as helpers in my training, because then they had to share what they knew. When you put them in that position, it changes them, it makes them really good guides, because they know how to share their information.<\/p>\n

\"The<\/a>

The Turquoise-browed Motmot (Eumomota superciliosa), an unforgettable bird that can be seen year-round in the Yucatan Peninsula. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

In some cases the communities have not consolidated behind the activity. It\u2019s not going to fly, they\u2019re off the beaten track. In communities like Ria Lagartos and Punta Allen, for instance, I can compare those two: they\u2019ve got tourism, there were four cooperatives, they could never get all together and they were very competitive against each other, tell lies about the other to get the client and all of that. At the same time I was doing training in San Felipe and Xcalak, where they had one cooperative, everybody together, it was small, they were just starting out, it was lovely. But it has to do with the flow of tourism. And as soon as you get a lot of tourism they start dividing it up, and it\u2019s \u201cI know more than this guy so I\u2019m gonna make my own thing and I\u2019m going to make more money<\/em>\u201d, so competition starts.<\/p>\n

There\u2019s also a community in which I did not participate. Ismael Navarro from Ria Lagartos \u2013whom I had trained as a volunteer\u2013 went to Ek Balam to teach, so there\u2019s a couple of guides there that are fabulous, I\u2019ve seen their interviews. But they aren\u2019t getting tourism. And they\u2019ve got to eat, they\u2019re really poor. So this is what I say: to choose where you\u2019re going to do this you really need to take into consideration your ongoing traffic of tourism, what the conditions are. And of course I chose the communities within reserves, just because those reserves where chosen as reserves because they\u2019re really important for their natural resources.<\/p>\n

\"We've<\/a>

We’ve always felt reasonably safe while traveling in the Yucatan Peninsula, even by motorcycle! (Photo \u00a9 Roselys Oropeza).<\/p><\/div>\n

I\u2019ve seen\u00a0information reporting 450 million dollars per year of birding-related income in Costa Rica, whereas information about\u00a0the Yucatan Peninsula points to 2-3 million dollars per year. It seems we’re still way below our potential and much more needs to be done\u00a0to\u00a0show the world how wonderful this place is. We have\u00a0rich ecosystems,\u00a0specialized\u00a0guides, hotels of all price levels, wonderful food, Mayan and colonial culture, good roads. It’s a safe place to\u00a0travel independently by renting a car, but again we come upon the need to establish birding trails and routes. This is a requirement of utmost importance,\u00a0wouldn\u2019t you agree?<\/strong><\/p>\n

The only way to do the birding trails, and Ted Eubanks would tell you this based on the successful projects that he\u2019s had \u2013where they flow and he can do it and they\u2019re several years in the making\u2013 you have to do it with the Governor, he has to give the OK and you go from there. Politically it hasn\u2019t happened here, but that\u2019s where it has to come from if it’s going to work, because of what\u2019s involved. You have to get the SCT (Secretary of Communications and Transport), they have to put up the signs, there\u2019s so many government agencies that have to be involved for this to work. So it\u2019s not just the local conservationists and the good-doers and all of that, there\u2019s a lot of money involved in this.<\/p>\n

When he was here, Ted even told the Secretary of Tourism at the time that he would charge less than half of what he usually charges, because we could do the inventory locally, we\u2019re well advanced enough to do all of that. Tourism that goes to Costa Rica is North American basically, they\u2019re going to leave the U.S. so they’ve to get on a plane, whether they\u2019re going to Costa Rica, somewhere else in Central America or the Yucatan Peninsula. So if I have to get on a plane, where am I going to go? It\u2019s not just where the birds are. I\u2019ve been to Costa Rica many times, I\u2019ve been in Guanacaste and I\u2019ve seen every single bird that I see here. But there are other aspects: security, English-speaking people, etc. I know from the years that I sold time-shares in Canc\u00fan that people would do anything to avoid coming through Mexico City because they speak Spanish there. So getting a direct flight to Cancun was important for them. Those kinds of decisions influence and that\u2019s why Costa Rica gets more, you have more flights.<\/p>\n

Costa Rica has been advertising for many, many years, but what they don\u2019t say is that they\u2019ve devastated their park system precisely because of tourism, so benefit on one hand, and eroding on the other. We have all the potential, but you have Mexico with all the narcos<\/em> and everything. Where do you separate it, when people outside of Mexico don\u2019t know their geography? We live here very normal lives, in fact I think this is one of the safest places to be in the whole world, without volcanoes and earthquakes, or people killing each other in schools and all of that. It takes an overall effort with government agencies focused on this, and at different times people have been interested, but overall your politicians and people in so-called \u201cpublic service\u201d positions don\u2019t understand birding. They see the numbers and they think millions of people are going to come because that\u2019s what the statistics show, but because people have to get on a plane and spend the same amount of money, maybe even a couple of hundred dollars less to go to Costa Rica, and because so many others have gone there \u2013it\u2019s a very small country with probably more visitors than natives\u2013 you have to deal with people\u2019s perceptions.<\/p>\n

\"A<\/a>

A Bare-throated Tiger Heron (Tigrisoma mexicanum), one of the most striking\u00a0birds that\u00a0can be seen in the Yucatan Peninsula,\u00a0stands still for a portrait near Akumal, Quintana Roo. (Photo \u00a9 Iv\u00e1n Gabald\u00f3n).<\/p><\/div>\n

What about the downside of eco-tourism, as you just pointed out\u00a0in relation to Costa Rica? What’s the potential for\u00a0negative consequences and how can these be prevented? Is it a question of regulating more once you have the flow of eco-tourists?<\/strong><\/p>\n

Education is best. I\u2019ll give you a positive example, in Muyil. The Maya in Quintana Roo are very independent. There\u2019s an Italian travel agency in Playa del Carmen, they have the jeeps and move a lot of people. They always try to down your price, they\u2019ll give you volume but they pay less per person. So they went to Ismael Camales, his father worked with Amigos since 1986 so I\u2019ve known him since he was a child, he took a RARE course and became a fantastic birder. A number of years ago they went to him and said, instead of six people on a boat to go out we\u2019ll have eight, and we\u2019ll pay you this, and you\u2019ll have more volume. Well, they never entered there. That\u2019s an attitude that happened in Africa, where they limited the number of visitors to the gorillas but they upped the price, so that\u2019s what he was doing without thinking about it, he knew he didn\u2019t want massive tourism there spoiling it. But that\u2019s also because they\u2019re very independent, that doesn\u2019t happen often, it\u2019s exceptional. It would be great if it did happen, but unfortunately we\u2019re humans.<\/p>\n

Regulation, yes, but I really feel it\u2019s education. And you have to be sure that people are getting a fair price to begin with and benefiting from the activity so that they don\u2019t sell out. Unfortunately the scale of human population goes against the economics of \u201chigher price fewer people\u201d. I can\u2019t be quite as optimistic, but I\u2019ll tell you, I was interviewed in Sian Ka\u2019an years ago by someone from the UN who evaluated projects throughout the world, and I told him how when we started out with Amigos de Sian Ka\u2019an I thought we didn\u2019t have time for environmental education, we had to get into the nitty-gritty and just didn\u2019t have the time. But now years later I believe education is the only answer, because you just can\u2019t change mentalities that have already been formed, so you have to start with younger generations. And he said he\u2019d come to the same conclusion, after 20 years of doing evaluations for UN all over the world.<\/p>\n

One final question, let\u2019s say we run into a person who asks: Why should I go birding in the Yucatan Peninsula?<\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

I\u2019d say, why shouldn\u2019t you?! You have birds that are unique to the region, you have wonderful bird guides, we have in the area beautiful experiences that they won\u2019t find someplace else. I mean, most people get absolutely stunned, even if they\u2019ve been birding all over, when they see 10,000 flamingos, it\u2019s just an incredible sight. But also I think it\u2019s the people, there’s incredible social communication and the people are lovely, particularly in\u00a0the Yucatan Peninsula.<\/p>\n

\"Flamingoes<\/a>

Flamingoes (Phoenicpterus ruber) at the end of the day, near Progreso. (Photo \u00a9 Ivan Gabaldon).<\/p><\/div>\n

I.G.H.<\/p>\n

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“Sal a Pajarear Yucatan”<\/strong>, by Barbara MacKinnon, is available through the following sources:<\/em><\/p>\n

– Casa de Cultutra Banamex<\/a> in Casa de Montejo, Merida.<\/em><\/p>\n

– Gandhi bookstores<\/a> in M\u00e9rida and Canc\u00fan<\/em><\/p>\n

– The store at Quinta Montes Molina<\/a> on Paseo de Montejo, M\u00e9rida<\/em><\/p>\n

– Amigos de Sian Ka’an<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

– Dra. Griselda Escalona in Ecosur-Campeche<\/a>.<\/em><\/p>\n

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Bibliography<\/span>:<\/em><\/p>\n

– Sal a Pajarear Yucatan<\/strong>, por\u00a0Barbara MacKinnon. Published by La Vaca Independiente<\/a>, M\u00e9xico.<\/em><\/p>\n

– The Sibley Guide to Bird Life and Behavior<\/strong>, by David Allen Sibley. Published by Alfred A. Knopf, New York.<\/em><\/p>\n

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